So, two similar but different questions come to mind:
Do they worship Yahweh despite their rejection of Christ?
Can you worship individual parts of the Trinity without worshiping the other two?
I'd love to get y'alls thoughts on that.
I honestly don't think Allah is the same Yahweh/God that Christianity/Judaism worship. While I don't have concrete evidence of that (or even a biblical/koran defense of it), that's my understanding.tmorrill wrote:
Do they worship Yahweh despite their rejection of Christ?
Based of the teachings of the Bible, I can't see how you could worship different parts of the Trinity, as they are one. The Father is the Son is the Holy Ghost is the Father. Closest analogy I can think of is mee accepting that you are a physical being in front of me, but denying that you have a heart and a soul.tmorrill wrote:
Can you worship individual parts of the Trinity without worshiping the other two?
Deuteronomy 6:4 wrote:Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:
Matthew Henry's Commentary wrote:What we are here taught to believe concerning God: that Jehovah our God is one Jehovah. (1.) That the God whom we serve is Jehovah, a Being infinitely and eternally perfect, self-existent, and self-sufficient. (2.) That he is the one only living and true God; he only is God, and he is but one. The firm belief of this self-evident truth would effectually arm them against all idolatry, which was introduced by that fundamental error, that there are gods many. It is past dispute that there is one God, and there is no other but he, Mark 12:32. Let us therefore have no other, nor desire to have any other. Some have thought there is here a plain intimation of the trinity of persons in the unity of the Godhead; for here is the name of God three times, and yet all declared to be one. Happy they that have this one Lord for their God; for they have but one master to please, but one benefactor to seek to. It is better to have one fountain that a thousand cisterns, one all-sufficient God than a thousand insufficient ones.
F.E. Peters, Islam, p.4, Princeton University Press, 2003 wrote:According to Francis Edwards Peters, "The Qur'an insists, Muslims believe, and historians affirm that Muhammad and his followers worship the same God as the Jews. The Koran's Allah is the same Creator God who covenanted with Abraham". Peters states that the Qur'an portrays Allah as both more powerful and more remote than Yahweh, and as a universal deity, unlike Yahweh who closely follows Israelites.
Paeter wrote:Woah! Intense title! Will that get you in trouble?
I'd be VERY interested in your thoughts and seeing the paper posted here!
ComiKate wrote:
If both our holy books are inspired, then they would have to be inspired by different Gods since the main message on God having a Son is 180 degrees opposite in both books.
ComiKate wrote:Interested in reading your pieces tmorrill!
I have a muslim colleague with whom I've had many hours of conversation on our respective beliefs and theologies. These were great talks by the way, in very good atmosphere.
If both our holy books are inspired, then they would have to be inspired by different Gods
My colleague thought about this and then came to the - to him surprising - conclusion that that made sense.
Paeter wrote:A very interesting read! What kind of class at what kind of school is this for?
Paeter wrote:Is your instructor a Christian, or approaching the class from that perspective? My thinking is that your closing statement might come off a bit strong for the average religion teacher. Often, these folks want students to examine religion from a detached perspective, discussing content in terms of what it does or doesn't teach, not coming to conclusions on whether or not it is actually true. So I'm just wondering if your closing observations about the eternal destiny of those without Christ (a true and good observation) and your candy coated cyanide metaphor might hurt your score on the paper in some way. What do you think?
I am interested in what YOU take away from your reading of the Qur'an, not what others are saying. The main objective of this paper is to communicate to me that you have read and engaged the Qur'an....
tmorrill wrote: and she reminded me that Islam is an extension of Christianity and Judaism (which I'm not okay with.)
tmorrill wrote:Either way, my final grade was a 91%, I got docked because a few times I put it's instead of its and had some run on sentences (shocking!).
tmorrill wrote:she reminded me that Islam is an extension of Christianity and Judaism (which I'm not okay with.)
Wow, that is such a terrific score, congratulations!tmorrill wrote:Well, I got the paper back and the feedback I got said I quoted the Bible a bit more than I should have (which I'm okay with.), and she reminded me that Islam is an extension of Christianity and Judaism (which I'm not okay with.)
Either way, my final grade was a 91%.
The best summary I can think of to describe the Qur'an would be of a poorly chosen appetizer. It can begin to satisfy your cravings, but in the end it will distract and replace the true meal that would cause you to never hunger or thirst again.
Ooh, that's nice.tmorrill wrote:
Paeter, I did take your advice and change up the closing analogy I made a bit.
The best summary I can think of to describe the Qur'an would be of a poorly chosen appetizer. It can begin to satisfy your cravings, but in the end it will distract and replace the true meal that would cause you to never hunger or thirst again.